Erdogan's anger toward Australia may have to do with the defiant support for Gulen: Governor designate Margaret Beazley's Gulen problem gets more complicated
by Ganesh Sahathevan
Turkey's President Erdogan's anger towards Australia may be primarily motivated by the support his rival Fetullah Gulen receives from the highest levels of government,especially in NSW. As reported by SBS:
Turkey's 'most-wanted terrorist' and his well-connected friends in Australia
Gulen's friends in Australia include the Premier NSW, the AG NSW and the Governor designate, Margaret Beazley AO,and other senior members of the judiciary (see story below).
Gulen receives this support despite evidence of the Gulen movement's influence peddling.See for example this paper located at the Australian Institute Of International Affair's website:
The Case against Gülen
And of course, Gulen receives this support eventhough the Erdogan is the leader of a country with which Australia maintains diplomatic relations.
Turkey's President Erdogan's anger towards Australia may be primarily motivated by the support his rival Fetullah Gulen receives from the highest levels of government,especially in NSW. As reported by SBS:
Turkey's 'most-wanted terrorist' and his well-connected friends in Australia
Gulen's friends in Australia include the Premier NSW, the AG NSW and the Governor designate, Margaret Beazley AO,and other senior members of the judiciary (see story below).
Gulen receives this support despite evidence of the Gulen movement's influence peddling.See for example this paper located at the Australian Institute Of International Affair's website:
The Case against Gülen
And of course, Gulen receives this support eventhough the Erdogan is the leader of a country with which Australia maintains diplomatic relations.
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by Ganesh Sahatahevan
Gladys Berejiklian (right) and Margaret Beazley - AAPMargaret Beazley QC will be the next governor of NSW.
NSW Premier Berejiklian and her AG Mark Speakman SC continue to maintain their silence on the matter of their dalliance with the the Gulen movement, better known these days as the Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation (FETO).
NSW's Gulen problem can only worsen, given governor designate Margaret Beazley's presence at a number of events organised by the Gulen movement's local arm, the Affinity Intercutural Group.
At one event Beazley ,then President Of The Court Of Appeal NSW, said:
"...despite a perception that Islam and the Australian law are incompatible, this is not borne out by the caselaw".
Her speech is archived on the NSW Supreme Court website:
The intersection of Australian law and the Islamic faith:a selection of casesAffinity Intercultural FoundationThe Hon Justice M J Beazley AO1
This writer has been informed by the Legal Profession Admission Board, a body under the purview of the Attorney General NSW that statements linking Beazley to Gulen and are considered defamatory of Beazley. This writer has offered to share intelligence with Beazley and the AG, but the offer has been ignored.
Meanwhile, Turkey's ambassador to Turkey has had this to say about the Gulen movement's high powered links in NSW:
JAN 6 2019
Gladys Berejiklian (right) and Margaret Beazley - AAPMargaret Beazley QC will be the next governor of NSW.
NSW Premier Berejiklian and her AG Mark Speakman SC continue to maintain their silence on the matter of their dalliance with the the Gulen movement, better known these days as the Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation (FETO).
NSW's Gulen problem can only worsen, given governor designate Margaret Beazley's presence at a number of events organised by the Gulen movement's local arm, the Affinity Intercutural Group.
At one event Beazley ,then President Of The Court Of Appeal NSW, said:
"...despite a perception that Islam and the Australian law are incompatible, this is not borne out by the caselaw".
Her speech is archived on the NSW Supreme Court website:
The intersection of Australian law and the Islamic faith:a selection of casesAffinity Intercultural FoundationThe Hon Justice M J Beazley AO1
This writer has been informed by the Legal Profession Admission Board, a body under the purview of the Attorney General NSW that statements linking Beazley to Gulen and are considered defamatory of Beazley. This writer has offered to share intelligence with Beazley and the AG, but the offer has been ignored.
Meanwhile, Turkey's ambassador to Turkey has had this to say about the Gulen movement's high powered links in NSW:
“Of course we are concerned, and of course we warned both federal and state authorities about how we approach these groups. This is not something new. We have been doing it for a few years.”
But he concedes: “The things is, I have no way of knowing whether there are some terrorist activities in Australia. But since the government of NSW is [hosting the iftar dinner], they’re not seen as such.”
The Premier, her AG and their governor designate seem not to understand that for so long as Turkey and Australia maintain diplomatic relations , their dalliances with the Gulen movement will be seen as acts that threaten the interests of a friendly country.
Given recent interest from local parties in this writer's story below,it does appear that the AG's Department Of Justice has been busy trying to find a well researched legal answer to the issues raised below. This writer can attest that the Department has difficulty applying legal concepts to actual facts,such as those outlined by the Turkish ambassador and in the articles below.
Given recent interest from local parties in this writer's story below,it does appear that the AG's Department Of Justice has been busy trying to find a well researched legal answer to the issues raised below. This writer can attest that the Department has difficulty applying legal concepts to actual facts,such as those outlined by the Turkish ambassador and in the articles below.
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JAN 6 2019
by Ganesh Sahathevan
The Shadowy Gülen Movement-Why is it still welcome at Parliament House NSW?
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian and the NSW AG Speakman have yet to explain their government's affinity with the Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation ,despite action against FETO by Turkey, Indonesia and Malaysia.
Meanwhile The Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme (Scheme) has commenced, on 10 December 2018, but the public register remains empty.The Gulen movement's Australian representatives, which include the Affinity Intercultural Group are obvious candidates, but the Group's decision to not register pursuant to the requirements of the Scheme can be seen to have the approval of the Premier, the AG, and various members of the judiciary.
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The Case against Gülen;Dr Bruce Mabley;04 JAN 2017.
Turkey: The Gulen Dilemma;Dr Bruce Mabley;07 DEC 2016
NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian and the NSW AG Speakman have yet to explain their government's affinity with the Fetullah Gulen Terrorist Organisation ,despite action against FETO by Turkey, Indonesia and Malaysia.
Meanwhile The Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme (Scheme) has commenced, on 10 December 2018, but the public register remains empty.The Gulen movement's Australian representatives, which include the Affinity Intercultural Group are obvious candidates, but the Group's decision to not register pursuant to the requirements of the Scheme can be seen to have the approval of the Premier, the AG, and various members of the judiciary.
The Gulen movement has a history of influence peddling here and overseas.
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The Case against Gülen;Dr Bruce Mabley;04 JAN 2017.
Turkey: The Gulen Dilemma;Dr Bruce Mabley;07 DEC 2016
Australian judge says syariah & Australian law compatible -Comments in conjunction with the FetullahGulen movement
by Ganesh Sahathevan
Margaret Joan Beazley AO
The Hon Justice M J Beazley AO, President Of The Court Of Appeal ,State Of NSW, Australia ,said in a speech delivered in 2014, but not widely reported:
"...despite a perception that Islam and the Australian law are incompatible, this is not borne out by the caselaw"
She did so in conjunction with the Affinity Intercultural Foundation, the Australian arm of the Fetullah Gulen movement. While Gulen and his followers have been recently victimised by former friend and ally Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the president of Turkey who they helped install, Gulen and his people are not innocent of jihadi activity.
They are nevertheless quite adapt at recruiting Western "intellectuals" to promote their, cause, Her Honour is only the most recent.There is this other incident :
I have previously written about the Fetullah Gulen and his movement , and their influence in Turkey. I have drawn special attention to their support for Turkish PM Erdogan,and Erdogan's support for the SDGT Yassin Al-Kadi ( http://www.terrorfinance.org/ the_terror_finance_blog/2007/ 08/erdoganakp-back.html )
The article also draws attention to the charges brought against Gulen by previous Turkish Governments, in regards to his attempts to establish an Islamic state in Turkey.
A part of the Gulen organisation is the Society for Social and Economic Solidarity with Pacific Countries (PASIAD).
PASIAD serves at least 3 functions:
a) to promote trade and development by assisting Turkish and Asian businessmen establish contact with each other. (see http://en.fgulen.com/content/ view/2198/31/ )
b) the establishment of Turkish schools. In 2004, 4 teachers at a PASIAD school in the Philippines were arrested on suspicion of involvement in terrorist activities.The school is located in the southern Philippines city of Cotobato, where the Moro Islamic Liberation Front is active.(see ( http://www.iht.com/articles/ 2004/04/02/a1_9.php)
c) propagation of the Islamic faith
In regards to paragraph a), attention is drawn to the fact that PASIAD funds study tours of Turkey by persons with whom Gulen chapters in various countries have sought to build relations. In Australia PASIAD funded a tour of Turkey by an assistant commissioner of police, Ken Lay and his wife. The tour included meetings with various business people in Turkey .( http://www.intercultural.org. au/edialogue/2007/August/ index.html )
The assistant commissioner has refused to respond to all queries sent him regarding his trip to Turkey and the business people he met. The questions were put to him in context of Erdogan's support for the SDGT Yassin Al-Kadi.
In regards to paragraph b), attention is drawn to the following matters:
Gulen schools in Russia and Central Asia have been investigated, some closed down for encouraging fundamentalism ,and the terrorism that springs from it (see for example http://www.eurasianet.org/ resource/azerbaijan/hypermail/ 200202/0031.shtml )
In the 1990s, the growth in Turkey of both political Islam and an Islamic-driven pan-Turkism that envisions uniting all the Turkic-- speaking nations from the Mediterranean to China, created problems for Turkey in Central Asia. In 1999, Tashkent shut down the Turkish schools in Uzbekistan run by the Turkish Sufi cleric Fetullah Gulen, accusing them of supporting Islamic groups. (The fires of faith in Central Asia,Ahmed Rashid,1 April 2001,World Policy Journal
45-55,Volume 18, Issue 1)
Even in the Gulen movement's own words , there was little difference between Gulen and the Gray Wolves, best known outside Turkey for the attempted assassination of the late Pope John Paul II by one of their members , Mehmet Ali Agca ( see http://en.fgulen.com/content/ view/1208/23/)
In regards to paragraph c), suffice to say that being Sufi has not prevented the Gulen movement in PASIAD from working with Sunni groups such as the World Civilization Research Group of Malaysia (or by the Malay acronym , GPTD).
The GPTD is part of the Malaysian Muslim Youth Force (ABIM), founded by Anwar Ibrahim of the International Institute of Islamci Thought. ABIM continues to maintain strong links with the IIIT even as the latter is being investigated for financing terrorism related activities in the US and elsewhere.
Margaret Joan Beazley AO
The Hon Justice M J Beazley AO, President Of The Court Of Appeal ,State Of NSW, Australia ,said in a speech delivered in 2014, but not widely reported:
"...despite a perception that Islam and the Australian law are incompatible, this is not borne out by the caselaw"
She did so in conjunction with the Affinity Intercultural Foundation, the Australian arm of the Fetullah Gulen movement. While Gulen and his followers have been recently victimised by former friend and ally Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the president of Turkey who they helped install, Gulen and his people are not innocent of jihadi activity.
They are nevertheless quite adapt at recruiting Western "intellectuals" to promote their, cause, Her Honour is only the most recent.There is this other incident :
Erdogan,AKP backer Fetullah Gulen finds support for Islamist cause from Australia's Catholic University
For reference:More on Erdogan backer Fetullah Gulen
I have previously written about the Fetullah Gulen and his movement , and their influence in Turkey. I have drawn special attention to their support for Turkish PM Erdogan,and Erdogan's support for the SDGT Yassin Al-Kadi ( http://www.terrorfinance.org/
The article also draws attention to the charges brought against Gulen by previous Turkish Governments, in regards to his attempts to establish an Islamic state in Turkey.
A part of the Gulen organisation is the Society for Social and Economic Solidarity with Pacific Countries (PASIAD).
PASIAD serves at least 3 functions:
a) to promote trade and development by assisting Turkish and Asian businessmen establish contact with each other. (see http://en.fgulen.com/content/
b) the establishment of Turkish schools. In 2004, 4 teachers at a PASIAD school in the Philippines were arrested on suspicion of involvement in terrorist activities.The school is located in the southern Philippines city of Cotobato, where the Moro Islamic Liberation Front is active.(see ( http://www.iht.com/articles/
c) propagation of the Islamic faith
In regards to paragraph a), attention is drawn to the fact that PASIAD funds study tours of Turkey by persons with whom Gulen chapters in various countries have sought to build relations. In Australia PASIAD funded a tour of Turkey by an assistant commissioner of police, Ken Lay and his wife. The tour included meetings with various business people in Turkey .( http://www.intercultural.org.
The assistant commissioner has refused to respond to all queries sent him regarding his trip to Turkey and the business people he met. The questions were put to him in context of Erdogan's support for the SDGT Yassin Al-Kadi.
In regards to paragraph b), attention is drawn to the following matters:
Gulen schools in Russia and Central Asia have been investigated, some closed down for encouraging fundamentalism ,and the terrorism that springs from it (see for example http://www.eurasianet.org/
In the 1990s, the growth in Turkey of both political Islam and an Islamic-driven pan-Turkism that envisions uniting all the Turkic-- speaking nations from the Mediterranean to China, created problems for Turkey in Central Asia. In 1999, Tashkent shut down the Turkish schools in Uzbekistan run by the Turkish Sufi cleric Fetullah Gulen, accusing them of supporting Islamic groups. (The fires of faith in Central Asia,Ahmed Rashid,1 April 2001,World Policy Journal
45-55,Volume 18, Issue 1)
Even in the Gulen movement's own words , there was little difference between Gulen and the Gray Wolves, best known outside Turkey for the attempted assassination of the late Pope John Paul II by one of their members , Mehmet Ali Agca ( see http://en.fgulen.com/content/
In regards to paragraph c), suffice to say that being Sufi has not prevented the Gulen movement in PASIAD from working with Sunni groups such as the World Civilization Research Group of Malaysia (or by the Malay acronym , GPTD).
The GPTD is part of the Malaysian Muslim Youth Force (ABIM), founded by Anwar Ibrahim of the International Institute of Islamci Thought. ABIM continues to maintain strong links with the IIIT even as the latter is being investigated for financing terrorism related activities in the US and elsewhere.
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